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長生不老的雞心

Hey everybody. Welcome back to the show. I’ve got a fun one for you here today on the Cabral concept. We’re gonna be going over the story of the Immortal Chicken Heart. This story was done now over a hundred years ago, or I should say this experiment was done by Dr. Alexis Carroll over a hundred years ago. It started in 1912. It was done out of Rockefeller University. It’s now Rockefeller University. And uh, back then it was known as, uh, the Rockefeller Institute in New York City. Now it’s become a famous university. Now this wasn’t done by any doctor, just kind of off the street just trying to do some experiments on longevity, anti-aging, cell culture, regenerative medicine, et cetera. This was a Nobel Prize winning surgeon and biologist in the field of regenerative medicine, anti-aging gerontology, and much more. Now, again, let’s see, this was 1912, so we’re going back what, 112, 113 or so years ago.

Pretty amazing. And this was an experiment that just went on for your typical six weeks, eight weeks, maybe a 12 week experiment, which nowadays is kind of a long period of time. This went on for decades, 34 years to be precise, actually, well beyond Dr. Carroll’s, it’s C-A-R-R-E L’s work on this experiment. So additional colleagues continued on the experiment. So what exactly was this? Why is it so fascinating? Um, I wrote about this first in my book, the Rainbow Effect. And since then I’ve had so many people ask me about it, uh, actually on, on podcasts that I’ve done on other people’s shows. Like tell me about this Immortal Chicken Heart. Alright, so let’s go over the full story. ’cause I didn’t go through the whole story, the full story in my book, the Rainbow Barrel Effect. I didn’t even know that it would be as intriguing as, you know, people have asked about, but it is, it’s intriguing to me.

And so I love to be able to share about it. Here’s the thing, your typical chicken out in the wild lives about five to 10 years. If you bring it into captivity or you know, you bring it into your backyard, it might live 10 to 12 years. So this chicken heart though, it lived 34 years and actually the only reason why the chicken heart or the cells of the chicken heart, um, died was because they ended the experiment. They stopped doing the things to keep the heart alive. So let’s, let’s look at this for a minute because think about this, like the maximum longevity of a human is about 120 years. Again, people can argue back and forth, but about 120 years that that seems to be the maximum. But realistically it’s somewhere around 75 years old. ’cause that’s the average life of a human.

嘿大家。歡迎回到節目。今天我為大家準備了一篇關於卡布拉爾概念的有趣文章。我們要回顧一下不朽雞心的故事。這個故事現在已經是一百多年前完成的了，或者應該說這個實驗是亞歷克西斯·卡羅爾博士在一百多年前做的。它始於 1912 年，由洛克菲勒大學完成。現在是洛克菲勒大學。呃，當時它被稱為，呃，紐約市的洛克菲勒研究所。現在它已經成為一所著名的大學。現在這不是由任何醫生完成的，只是在街上嘗試做一些關於長壽、抗衰老、細胞培養、再生醫學等的實驗。這是一位在再生醫學、抗衰老老年學等領域獲得諾貝爾獎的外科醫生和生物學家。現在，讓我們再看看，現在是 1912 年，所以我們要追溯到 112、113 年前左右。

相當驚人。這個實驗只持續了典型的六週、八週，甚至可能是 12 週的實驗，現在這已經很長一段時間了。這種情況持續了幾十年，準確地說是 34 年，實際上，遠遠超出了卡羅爾博士的時間，這是 C-A-R-R-E L 在這個實驗上的工作。於是更多的同事繼續進行實驗。那麼這到底是什麼呢？為何如此迷人？嗯，我首先在我的書《彩虹效應》中寫到了這一點。從那時起，就有很多人問我這個問題，呃，實際上是在我在其他人的節目中做過的播客上。跟我說說這不朽雞心吧。好吧，讓我們回顧一下整個故事。因為我沒有讀完整個故事，我的書《彩虹桶效應》中的完整故事。我什至不知道它會像人們問的那樣有趣，但它確實對我來說很有趣。

所以我喜歡能夠分享它。事情是這樣的，在野外，典型的雞能活大約五到十年。如果你把它圈養或你知道，你把它帶到你的後院，它可能會活 10 到 12 年。所以這個雞心，它活了34年，實際上雞心或雞心細胞，嗯，死亡的唯一原因是因為他們結束了實驗。他們不再做那些讓心臟保持活力的事情。讓我們來看看這個問題，因為想一想，人類的最長壽命約為 120 年。同樣，人們可以反覆爭論，但大約 120 年似乎是最長的。但實際上它已經有 75 歲左右了。因為那是人類的平均壽命。

So let’s just say average life of a human. Um, and that’s not even like best case scenario. Let’s just say a hundred is best case scenario. And then 75 is like the chicken in the wild, right? Okay, so let’s look at that. If we go seven times, right, three to three to seven times what a wild chicken lives is, how long this chicken heart lived, or just to make it simpler, three times captivity. Okay? So for a human, let’s go three times a hundred, that’s easy. 300, right? Or even three times the lowest number, which is 75. So now we’re at what, 2 25, 75, 70 five’s, one 50, another 70 five’s, 2 25. So now you’re saying, okay, could we take a human and get them to live 225 years to 300 years to maybe 360 years? So kind of has that maximum, right? Pretty, I mean it’s, it’s interesting to look at and that’s why this experiment sparked so much excitement.

So I wanna share with you exactly what they did in the lab in order to keep these heart cells beating and alive, okay? Because maybe then we can use this research 112 years later in order to improve overall health and longevity. Because remember, if this, if these heart cells, this heart wasn’t healthy, there’s no way it could live this long. So what do they do? Well, they did two things. It’s what I talk about and again, in the rain barrel effect, and that’s why like it’s a little tongue and cheek for me because they did two things. Because there’s only two ways that humans become sick. And there’s only two ways that humans become unwell, and that is through deficiencies and toxicities. And so you need to know what your deficiencies are and you need to know what your toxicities are. So here’s what they did in the lab to help this chicken heart live at least three times as long as it would even in the best of conditions, right?

Seven times longer than the wilds. Here’s what they did. I’m gonna give you exactly what they used. They fed this chicken heart, let’s call them cells, tissue, a blood serum. What does that mean? It’s what it would normally bathe in, right? The heart would bathe in blood, so they would use a chicken blood-based serum, which contains things such as normal growth factors and nutrients that the blood provides, maybe some iron, et cetera. They also gave it certain salts and electrolytes. And the reason they gave it salt and electrolytes was to actually help balance the pH of the tissues in the solution as well. And we know inside of the human body we also need calcium, magnesium, sodium, and potassium. We know that we need the predominance of that potassium inside of the cell for it to beep properly or for, or four just abnormal what’s called osmosis.

所以我們只說人類的平均壽命。嗯，這甚至不像最好的情況。我們只能說一百是最好的情況。那麼75就像野雞一樣，對嗎？好的，讓我們來看看。如果我們去七次，對吧，野雞壽命的三到三到七倍，這隻雞的心臟活了多久，或者簡單地說，是圈養的三倍。好的？所以對於一個人來說，我們去三次一百，這很容易。 300，對嗎？或甚至是最低數字的三倍，即 75。 所以現在我們是 2 25、75、70 個五，一個 50，另一個 70 個五，2 25。 所以現在你說，好吧，我們可以採取一個人並讓他們活到225 歲到300 歲甚至360 歲？所以有這個最大值，對吧？漂亮，我的意思是，看起來很有趣，這就是為什麼這個實驗引發瞭如此多的興奮。

所以我想與您分享他們在實驗室中所做的到底是為了保持這些心臟細胞的跳動和存活，好嗎？因為也許 112 年後我們可以利用這項研究來改善整體健康並延長壽命。因為記住，如果這個，如果這些心臟細胞，這個心臟不健康，它就不可能活這麼久。那他們做什麼呢？嗯，他們做了兩件事。這就是我在雨桶效應中反覆談論的內容，這就是為什麼我覺得這有點無禮，因為他們做了兩件事。因為人類生病的方式只有兩種。人類生病的方式只有兩種，那就是缺乏和毒性。所以你需要知道你的缺陷是什麼，你需要知道你的毒性是什麼。因此，他們在實驗室中做了以下工作，以幫助這隻雞心臟的壽命至少是在最好條件下的三倍，對嗎？

比荒野長七倍。這就是他們所做的。我會給你他們到底用了什麼。他們餵養雞心，我們稱它們為細胞、組織、血清。這意味著什麼？平常洗澡的時候都是這樣的吧？心臟會沐浴在血液中，因此他們會使用以雞血為基礎的血清，其中含有正常生長因子和血液提供的營養物質，也許還有一些鐵等。他們還給它提供了某些鹽和電解質。他們給它添加鹽和電解質的原因實際上是為了幫助平衡溶液中組織的 pH 值。我們知道人體內部也需要鈣、鎂、鈉和鉀。我們知道，我們需要細胞內的鉀占主導地位，才能正常發出蜂鳴聲，或四種不正常的現象，即所謂的滲透作用。

And I wanna talk about that in one second. And we know that the predominance of the sodium is outside of the cell. So great, they gave it some electrolytes. The next thing they gave it out of the five things total was amino acids for protein. And that was in order to be able to continue to repair the cells as they normally would break down over time. Okay? So we need some protein. Then they gave it glucose, a form of carbohydrate, which is the predominant energy source for the cells, especially the heart cells. Then they gave it vitamins and minerals. So they use these vitamins and minerals, how you normally would get inside of your blood from foods or supplements that you take that would then feed these living tissues. So now what do we have? Well, we basically have an electrolyte solution. Calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, some other electrolytes as well, maybe like phosphorus, other things in there as well.

Good for the tissues. We have amino acids, which are the building block for all tissue that helps to rebuild it. Those are your proteins. Then we need a fuel source. The most abundant, easiest fuel source being carbohydrates or glucose. They gave it that and then vitamins and minerals to make sure the cells could also produce their own energy, B vitamins, et cetera, to keep the whole organism going. So they fed it. That’s the deficiencies, right? They help with the deficiencies, they fed it nutrients, but then they did one more thing. They cleaned the solution from that Petri dish, um, on what was either a daily or weekly basis because all cells produce waste. They produce waste as just part of normal cellular metabolism. Take in food just like us, excrete waste just like the human body does. So do all the cells in your body.

Remember you are a macro organism to all the microorganisms in your body. And we are a microorganism on this planet, right? To a larger macro organism. And that’s how we have to look at it. So in order to, to maximize lifespan of the immortal chicken heart, and by the way, the only reason this chicken heart died is because they ended the experiment, not because those tissues died on their own because the experiment was ended after 34 years. I mean, think about all the different, um, you know, PhDs, research scientists that move through this experiment over the years to continue to keep this going. And then at some point they’re like, well, this thing’s not gonna die on its own. We’re just going to end the experiment. So how I look at it is this, it’s abundantly clear and it’s been abundantly clear in my practice since about 2010, that if you have any health issues, if you have any wellness issues, it’s because you’re missing certain nutrients.

我想馬上談談這個問題。我們知道鈉的主要成分是在細胞外。太棒了，他們給了它一些電解質。在總共五種物質中，他們給出的下一種物質是蛋白質的胺基酸。這是為了能夠繼續修復細胞，因為它們通常會隨著時間的推移而分解。好的？所以我們需要一些蛋白質。然後他們給它葡萄糖，一種碳水化合物，它是細胞，特別是心臟細胞的主要能量來源。然後他們給它維生素和礦物質。因此，他們使用這些維生素和礦物質，通常是透過食物或補充劑進入血液，然後為這些活組織提供營養。那現在我們有什麼？好吧，我們基本上有電解質溶液。鈣、鎂、鈉、鉀，還有一些其他電解質，也許像磷，還有其他東西。

對組織有好處。我們有胺基酸，它是所有組織的組成部分，有助於重建組織。這些是你的蛋白質。然後我們需要燃料源。最豐富、最簡單的燃料來源是碳水化合物或葡萄糖。他們給予它，然後給予它維生素和礦物質，以確保細胞也能產生自己的能量、B 群維生素等，以維持整個有機體的運作。所以他們餵牠。這就是缺點吧？他們幫助彌補缺陷，為它提供營養，但隨後他們又做了一件事。他們每天或每週清理培養皿中的溶液，因為所有細胞都會產生廢物。它們產生廢物只是正常細胞代謝的一部分。像我們一樣攝取食物，像人體一樣排出廢物。你體內的所有細胞也是如此。

請記住，對於體內所有微生物而言，您是一個宏觀有機體。我們是這個星球上的微生物，對吧？到一個更大的宏觀有機體。這就是我們必須如何看待它。所以為了，最大限度地延長永生雞心的壽命，順便說一句，這隻雞心死亡的唯一原因是他們結束了實驗，而不是因為那些組織自行死亡，因為實驗在34年後結束了。我的意思是，想想多年來透過這個實驗繼續保持下去的所有不同的，嗯，你知道的，博士，研究科學家。然後在某個時候他們會想，好吧，這東西不會自行消亡。我們即將結束實驗。所以我的看法是，自 2010 年左右以來，在我的實踐中，非常清楚的是，如果你有任何健康問題，如果你有任何健康問題，那是因為你缺少某些營養素。

It could be calcium, magnesium, sodium, potassium, could be omega threes, could be the omega nines we talked about yesterday. Uh, it could be proteins, it could be carbs, it could be anything, right? Could be all the different nutrients that our body needs. B vitamins, methyl factors, uh, what else? Trimethylglycine like all sorts of different things, right? So we can, we can run labs, right? We can run something like the big five or the starter kit in order to be able to figure out what you’re missing. Okay? So that’s your deficiencies. Then we replace those. Great. Now the body has the nutrients that it needs, and guess what? The body innately knows how to heal, but it needs one more step. It needs you to help remove, help with that waste. So drinking enough water or fluid per day, sweating as many days a week as possible, moving your body, which moves the lymphatic system, doing things like a quarterly functional medicine detox, doing a 12 hour to maybe l 16 hour intermittent fast so that the body has time to process and remove before you start putting more in.

These are all the different steps along the way, but this creates a healthy human especially over time. So the way that we do that in our practice is actually fairly simple. We run the starter kit, which is all your vitamins and minerals, your gut health, your heavy metals, right? We do that or the big five, which is a little bit more in depth. Then we give the body the nutrients it needs. But before we even do that, before we get the lab results back, we’re doing a 21 day functional medicine detox. And that is helping do greatly remove the total toxic load in the body. So now it’s finally being talked about. It wasn’t 15 years ago and it probably won’t really reach its heyday and get the do it deserves just like in inte permeability, et cetera, for probably another 10 years, but don’t wait another 10 years to start getting the results that you deserve.

I’ve read about the rain barrel effect. I’ve talked about it over and over it, it’s guaranteed to work. It is the best place to get started, but run your labs first to get your baseline, then complete the 21 day detox. If you can’t do 21 days, do the first seven days, and then just continue with that days three through seven meal plan for the, for the rest of it, right? And just keep using the products that we know work. And then you transition then to a personalized plan. Once you get those labs back, that’s the best of all worlds. That helps you to give your body the nutrients it needs and to remove the waste that continues. Now, it’s not like it’s just, you know, bowel movement waste. It’s the waste that builds up in our body from natural cellular metabolism and aging. We know this, it’s one of the reasons why we know Sauna works so well.

它可能是鈣、鎂、鈉、鉀，可能是歐米伽三，也可能是我們昨天談到的歐米伽九。呃，它可能是蛋白質，可能是碳水化合物，也可能是任何東西，對吧？可能是我們身體所需的所有不同營養素。 B群維生素，甲基因子，呃，還有什麼？三甲基甘氨酸就像各種各樣不同的東西，對嗎？所以我們可以，我們可以運行實驗室，對嗎？我們可以運行大五或入門套件之類的東西，以便能夠找出您缺少的內容。好的？所以這就是你的不足。然後我們替換它們。偉大的。現在身體已經有了所需的營養，你猜怎麼著？身體天生就知道如何治愈，但還需要一步。它需要你幫忙消除、處理這些浪費。因此，每天喝足夠的水或液體，每週盡可能多地出汗，活動身體，從而活動淋巴系統，做每季度一次功能性藥物排毒之類的事情，進行12 小時到16 小時的間歇性禁食，以便在您開始放入更多之前，身體有時間進行處理和清除。

這些都是一路上的不同步驟，但這會創造一個健康的人，尤其是隨著時間的推移。所以我們在實踐中這樣做的方式其實相當簡單。我們運行入門套件，其中包含您所有的維生素和礦物質、您的腸道健康、您的重金屬，對嗎？我們就是這樣做的，或者是五巨頭，這更深入一些。然後我們為身體提供所需的營養。但在我們這樣做之前，在得到實驗室結果之前，我們要先進行 21 天的功能醫學排毒。這有助於大大消除體內的總有毒負荷。所以現在終於可以討論了。不是15 年前，它可能不會真正達到其全盛時期，也不會像互聯網滲透性等領域那樣，在接下來的10 年裡達到它應有的水平，但不要再等10 年才開始獲得它應有的水平。

我讀過有關雨桶效應的內容。我已經一遍又一遍地談論它，它保證有效。這是最好的起點，但首先運行您的實驗室以獲得基線，然後完成 21 天排毒。如果你無法做到 21 天，那就做前 7 天，然後繼續執行第 3 天到第 7 天的飲食計劃，完成剩下的時間，對嗎？並繼續使用我們知道有效的產品。然後您就可以過渡到個性化計劃。一旦你拿回這些實驗室，那就是最好的事了。這可以幫助您為身體提供所需的營養，並清除持續產生的廢物。現在，這不僅僅是排便廢物。它是自然細胞新陳代謝和老化在我們體內累積的廢物。我們知道這一點，這也是我們知道桑拿效果如此出色的原因之一。

Why we know intermittent fasting works well. Well, your body can get even more help, especially by using something like the daily nutritional support on a daily basis. Why? It gives you all the vitamins and minerals and electrolytes that your body needs, right? It’s like, it’s not, it’s not rocket science as they say, right? It’s just like you have to give your body the nutrients, it needs enough water fluid, sweating movement to help it also then remove right, nutrients in waste comes out. Give it a way to get rid of that waste. That’s the absolute best way to do this. So I wanted to share that with you here today. Um, the labs that we use, the starter kit, the daily nutritional support or the daily activated multi or, or any of those things, the big five, you can find them all@stephencabal.com slash shop. That takes you over to equal life.

That’s my virtual, uh, functional medicine, integrative health practice. Uh, we work with now well over a quarter of a million people. Of course, we’d love to be able to help you as well. But regardless, I wanted to share this fun story with you because it really does go to show maybe, maybe there’s more to this longevity. Maybe the body does know how to innately heal and continue to stay healthy and stay alive if we continue to clean the solution and replace those deficiencies. So it at least gives us something to talk about, debate about. I’d love to hear your comments. Feel free to leave those below. And again, for all the details on today’s show plus the big takeaways, head on over to steven cabral.com/2953. Take care everybody. Thanks so much for tuning into today’s show. Before you go, don’t forget to hit that subscribe button. I wanna make sure that you’re getting our daily content, not missing out on anything, functional medicine, wellness, weight gain, weight loss, anti-aging, living longer, stronger, and all of the most cutting edge research. And if there’s any topics you want to hear, feel free to leave them in the comments below. Take care.

為什麼我們知道間歇性斷食效果很好。好吧，您的身體可以獲得更多幫助，特別是透過每天使用日常營養支持之類的東西。為什麼？它為您提供身體所需的所有維生素、礦物質和電解質，對嗎？就像，這不是，這不是他們所說的火箭科學，對吧？就好像你要給你的身體提供營養，它需要足夠的水液，出汗運動來幫助它也才能正確地排除，廢物中的營養物質就出來了。給它一種消除浪費的方法。這絕對是最好的方法。所以我今天想在這裡跟大家分享這一點。嗯，我們使用的實驗室、入門套件、每日營養支持或每日激活複合劑，或任何這些東西，五大，你可以在 all@stephencabal.com 斜線商店找到它們。這會讓你過著平等的生活。

這就是我的虛擬，呃，功能醫學，綜合健康實踐。呃，我們現在與超過 25 萬人一起工作。當然，我們也很樂意為您提供協助。但無論如何，我想與你們分享這個有趣的故事，因為它確實顯示了也許，也許這種長壽還有更多的意義。如果我們繼續清理解決方案並彌補這些缺陷，也許身體確實知道如何自然治癒並繼續保持健康和生存。所以它至少給了我們一些可以談論、辯論的東西。我很想聽聽您的意見。請隨意留下以下內容。再次強調，要了解今天節目的所有詳細資訊以及重要要點，請訪問 stevencabral.com/2953。非常感謝您收看今天的節目。在您離開之前，請不要忘記點擊訂閱按鈕。我想確保您獲得我們的每日內容，不錯過任何內容，功能醫學、健康、增重、減肥、抗衰老、長壽、強壯以及所有最前沿的研究。如果您想聽任何主題，請隨時在下面的評論中留下。小心。

註：礦物質和維生素是輔因子或輔酶。它們共同使您的生化反應效率提高 100 萬倍！每個人都在維生素上花錢，但很少人給予礦物質應有的關注。

您的身體無法製造礦物質；就像維生素一樣，它們必須來自您的飲食。我們認為，補充礦物質比服用維生素更重要，因為維生素仍然存在於食物中；然而，透過過度耕種土地而獲得的礦物質已不再存在。正確飲食並服用終極礦物質可以為您提供所需的所有維生素和礦物質！

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